HP 2012.4.0.0 -- Call for Proposals

Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljenovic at gmail.com
Tue Aug 28 11:07:25 BST 2012


On 28 August 2012 19:26, Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj at microsoft.com> wrote:
> Mark, and HP folk,
>
>
>
> Geoff, Simon M, and I have just realised that
>
> ·         vector (which we would like to be included in HP) depends on
> primitive
>
> ·         And primitive is a Terrible Name for a package.  Really
> unacceptably bad.
>
>
>
> If you look at what’s in primitive it has a bunch of fairly simple wrappers
> round basic types:
>
> ·         Data.Primitive.Array defined (another) Array type, wrapping
> Array#. But it’s not the same as the Array type in Data.Array
>
> ·         There’s an Addr type, which is like the Foreign.Ptr type, but
> un-parameterised.
>
> ·         There’s a ByteArray type, wrapping Array#
>
> ·         There’s a Prim class, with operations like sizeOf#, alignment#,
> and so on.
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>
>
> Roman is the maintainer. Roman, are you happy to be in that position?
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>
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> What should we do about this?  There has been NO discussion of this API.
> Possibilities
>
> ·         Adopt the package with a new name, like vector-prim or
> vector-internal, implying that it’s for people doing vector-stuff, rather
> than for end users.  (And say that in the docs.)

There are quite a few packages that seem to use primitive:
http://packdeps.haskellers.com/reverse/primitive

Admittedly, my quick sample of those packages makes it seem like they
only use primitive _for_ dealing with vector (as in all the packages I
looked at also had vector as a dep).

>
> ·         Absorb it into the vector package, which is currently its only
> client (we think).
>
> ·         Absorb it into the base package.  But we are generally trying to
> reduce base not increase it.
>
>
>
> We don’t have a strong opinion, except that baking a package into HP called
> simply ‘primitive’ seems Wrong.
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>
>
> Very sorry for not bringing this up before... only just realised
>
>
>
> Simon
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>
>
> From: haskell-platform-bounces at projects.haskell.org
> [mailto:haskell-platform-bounces at projects.haskell.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Lentczner
> Sent: 22 August 2012 15:33
> To: haskell-platform at projects.haskell.org; Haskell Libraries
> Subject: Re: HP 2012.4.0.0 -- Call for Proposals
>
>
>
> Thank you, Yitz, for the wiki maintenance!
>
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>
> vector and time-extras - these should be updated by the proposers as they
> have been "reproposed"
>
> async, vector, and time-extras - I think these all need to be updated to
> reflect the current discussion period.
>
>
>
> While required by the process, I'd urge proposers to link to the specific
> version of the package under consideration. While the proposal is for
> inclusion of the package going forward (hence evolving versions over time),
> it really helps API discussions to pin them to a particular version. If
> discussion causes you to update a package, then the proposal discussion can
> "re-vector" to the new version.
>
>
>
> Please split discussion of particular proposals off from this thread.
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>
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> Lastly, just to be clear, the dates I set out are the dates by which I need
> proposals handled and decided in order to get the release out on schedule.
> The proposal process is not tied to releases, and can continue aysnc from
> release if any proposal needs time-extra.
>
>
>
>  - Mark
>
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